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    Bull Moose Hunting Club – A New and Intriguing Idea

    I’ve been observing an intriguing trend in the hunting community over the past several years, and while I’ve commented on it a time or two, I’ve never really had the time or incentive to explore it more thoroughly.   (I’m not sure that I have that time or incentive now, for that matter, but what the heck… if I don’t start, I’ll never finish.)

    So, then… what I’ve been seeing is an ever-increasing influx of hunters who are coming to the sport late in life.  Some of them may have had early exposure to hunting and shooting, but never got fully involved.  Many others are completely new to it. 

    Personally, as someone who literally grew up hunting, I’m curious as to what these folks’ experiences must be like, what motivated them to start hunting, and what challenges they face getting started and becoming successful.  Who do these new hunters turn to for mentoring or inspiration?  How do they learn… and just as importantly… what are they learning?

    I’m also intrigued by what this new crop of hunters will bring to the general hunting “ethic”.  What I have seen so far suggests that there’s a very different perspective, and it’s carried to further extremes, by individuals who recently made the decision to take up a blood sport.  I think this fresh point of view holds some pretty big implications for the future of hunting, although for better or worse remains to be seen. 

    For now, I’m simply glad to see that there are still more people coming into the community.  We’ve (hunters) been at serious risk of stagnation as the older generations fade away, and the new generations don’t have the interest or the time to take up the sport. 

    This train of thought was chugging through my mind back in May, when I saw an article in the SF Chronicle about an organization calling itself the “Bull Moose Hunting Society.”   The gist of the article is that a couple of guys in San Francisco wanted to start hunting, and realized that there were very few resources, especially in the urban environment, for people to learn how to hunt.  They also found that there was a lot of interest in eating wild game meat, even by folks who would probably never hunt for it themselves. 

    I followed the article link to the Bull Moose Hunting Society website to learn more about the organization.  These guys had stumbled onto a great idea and a fascinating concept.  That concept has evolved a little from it’s original roots as a sort of “wild game cooperative”, but it’s still an excellent idea.  One of the things that particularly captured my attention, though, was the Mission Statement:

    Leave no trace, take a clean shot, respect the animal, be a part of nature; these are qualities we at the Bull Moose Hunting Society express and would like to instill in a new generation of hunters, of human predators. Where the government of this country fails to establish ethical hunting guidelines, we educate and inform. Where the urbanized people of this country are removed from nature, we provide a means to return. Where the private landowners feel repulsed at unruly trophy hunters, we are an alternative. Bull Moose is an organization dedicated to providing a means for those of us who have lost our instincts, our predatory skills and our connection to the wild world to get those parts of ourselves back. We provide guidance through state hunting regulations and equipment purchases. We provide a link between private landowners and responsible, ethical hunters like ourselves. And most importantly, we bring the wild out in you.

    That truly is a “statement”.  There’s a lot there, and it speaks volumes about this “nouveau hunting ethic” that I’ve been wondering about… at least as these guys see it. 

    After reading and digesting a bit, I shot an email off to Bull Moose Hunting Society founders, Nick Zigelbaum and Nick Chaset to see if they’d be willing to answer a few questions.  It took a while to get our respective crap together, but we did finally get a chance to do a little email interview.   

    I don’t really like the Q&A format on a blog, but in the interest of getting everything in context, here’s the entire exchange (excluding a couple of questions that were left unanswered):

    Hog Blog: Describe the impetus for forming this organization.
     
    Nick: After getting into hunting the hard way (by ourselves) we decided there needed to be a resource for folks who grew up in the city and away from hunters. Thus we created the society to be a community of hunters and foodies to share knowledge and spread skills.

    Hog Blog: How many more hunters do you need?  What ratio of hunters to non-hunting members are you looking for?

    Nick:  Since the article we have opened up with a slightly different structure. Nick and I no longer organize and lead hunts. Instead we rely on the membership to organize hunts while we administer classes and other get-togethers. We are now 52 members, roughly half of which have hunting experience.

    Hog Blog:  How large would you like to see the organization become?

    Nick:  The new structure allows for as many local chapters as there are interested people. I’d like to see a local chapter in every major city in the US with as many as a few thousand members each.

    Hog Blog:  How many club members have hunted prior to joining the organization?  If any, how much experience do they bring?
     
    Nick:  About half the club has hunted and maybe a dozen have extensive experience. Most others hunted with their father or uncle as a kid and haven’t picked up a gun in 20 years or so.

    Hog Blog:  Do you want/need more experienced hunters in the club?

    Nick:  We are open to anyone joining, so long as they share our ethic. Experienced hunters do bring a valuable skill to the club, but there are many ways to contribute to our group.

    Hog Blog:  How many members do not hunt at all?

    Nick:  Not many since we have changed the structure. Now most everyone will engage in some way with hunting. Those who aren’t interested in hunting might put together or participate in wild food events such as making their own bacon or sausage from a hunted pig.

    Hog Blog:  Who is teaching the hunting skills?

    Nick:  The experienced members disseminate the knowledge to the less experienced. Instead of the traditional profit-oriented structure of hoarding and selling information, we promote transfer and equity so everyone gets to know how to hunt and everything else associated with preparing wild game.

    Hog Blog:  Are you primarily doing guided hunts, or are you hunting unguided as well?

    Nick:  This depends on the experience level of the members hunting. The society engages in both.

    Hog Blog:  How many hunts have you organized so far?

    Nick:  Personally, 3 this spring and 3 last year. Members have set up another 3 this fall.

    Hog Blog:  In your Mission Statement, you mention a specific idea of ethics.  Can you describe these ethical principles?  How do you think they differ from the “general” hunter?

    Nick:  We hunt to bring us closer to our food, not to mount a ten-point buck in our living rooms. There is no ‘general’ hunter, but there are many kinds of hunting that we would not want to engage in, such as trophy hunting or hunting endangered or rare species. There are places in other countries where you can hunt exotic and rare animals and ship the hide/antlers home. We would not allow such hunting in the society.

    One of the most powerful experiences a person can have is taking life. This experience is not to be taken lightly and with the wrong community can became a very negative lesson. The society intends to create the network necessary to help people find the positive side of hunting, which naturally brings the hunter closer to the wild. 

    Hog Blog:  Right now the focus of your organization seems to be hogs.  Will you be hunting other game as the seasons come in?  Tell me about some of your upcoming hunt plans.

    Nick:  I will be hunting deer in late september and other members will hunt hogs and pheasants. We are open to most game but I am personally wary of hunting predators.

    Hog Blog:  Do you see this organization being something that is carried over into other urban areas (e.g. Los Angeles, Sacramento, etc.)?

    Nick:  I am working on a Sacramento chapter now and we have designs for the Washington DC chapter as well.

    If you want to learn more about the Bull Moose Hunting Society, check out their website.  You’ll find plenty of info about the organization, some great recipes, and everything you’ll need to know if you have interest in starting a chapter in your city.  Even better, if you’re in San Francisco, contact the guys directly and arrange a conversation.

    I have every intention of digging more into the trend of the “later-in-life hunter”.  If you have come into the sport recently, particularly through a “non-traditional” route, and would like to share your story with me, please feel free to drop me a note.

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    11 Responses to “Bull Moose Hunting Club – A New and Intriguing Idea”

    1. suburban bushwacker Says:

      Philip
      I’m what you call a later in life hunter, although I’d prefer the term ‘middle youth’ if its all the same to you. ;-)

      Such a cool idea. I’ll be contacting them.
      SBW

    2. Josh Says:

      Checking them out. I’m weird, because my family didn’t hunt, really, until I got them into it. I was eight.

      Now, my Dad hunts, and my sister, at a respectable age, is seriously considering getting her license.

      I will definitely be checking out the Bull Moose Club.

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    4. Arthur Says:

      I have noticed this trend as well…..that more people are joining the hunting ranks later in life. It is interesting, and I’m curious as to why it is happening too.

      I think it is great, though. I figure the more the merrier when it comes the passion that we all love so much.

      And this Bull Moose Club sounds like one heck of an organization.

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    6. Moose Man Says:

      Warning – Late start hunters can become obsessive.

      I am personally warning all carnivores (those with canines) that it can be harmful to your Career if you pick up a gun or in my case a bow and start to hunt in middle life.

      I have floated hunted over 2OO miles on the Sheenjek River in Alaska. Moose. Caribou, Wolves, and more

      I spent 3 weeks on horse back hunting the great Northern Rocky Mountains of British Columbia. Moose Elk, Goats, Bears, etc. (my 50th birthday present to myself)

      I quick a perfectly good career as an Geological Engineer.

      I built Bear Mountain Lodge (a hunting estate) where Guest from all over the world come and hunt authentic (imported) Russian Boar into Michigan’s Wild & Scenic Upper Peninsula

      Please be careful what you dream about! – It just might come true.

      Find out if Hunting can change your life!

      Stop by the Hunting Resource Center a http://www.BearMountainQuest.com

      PS Say yes and awaken the Ancient Hunter and call forth the Beast Slayer!

      Moose Man

    7. Jean Says:

      I am also a later in life huntress. The assault weapons ban got me interested in shooting. A few years before that, my interest in fishing had reawakened, much to the consternation of my other half.
      A couple of friends at work were always talking about bird hunting and I became curious. From there, it didn’t take long to find out that my being is more complete because I hunt.

      That hasn’t made anything any easier. :-)

      Jean

    8. Phillip Loughlin Says:

      Thanks for all the comments… even you, MooseMan, and your shameless plug. ;-)

      I’m glad to see all these “middle youth” hunters joining the ranks! Welcome to the madness!

    9. Polprav Says:

      Hello from Russia!
      Can I quote a post “No teme” in your blog with the link to you?

    10. Daniel Says:

      I have wanted to hunt since I was a kid in suburbia and have managed to go on a bird hunt and a deer hunt (unsuccessful for me). So, this club sounds great to me. I haven’t done it more because I didn’t have the knowledge/experience of a dad, uncle, etc.

      This is the article that brought it to my attention…

      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/25/dining/25hunt.html?_r=1

    11. Phillip Loughlin Says:

      Hi Daniel.

      It’d be great to see the Bull Moose guys spread out around the country just so folks like you would have the advantage of this kind of organization.

      In the meantime, other good options would be to get out to the shooting range or skeet club, or if you shoot archery, check out the local archery clubs. You’d be amazed how many people you can meet if your the slightest bit outgoing.

      Another good choice is to do a search of online forums, particularly in your area. Most of the better forums have a lot to offer the newbie, as long as you’re respectful and don’t come off begging for information or hunting spots. Join the conversation, make no bones about your limited experience, and then start letting folks know why you’re there (to possibly pick up some tips and meet hunting buddies/mentors).

      Good luck to ya! It can be tough to break into the sport, but it’s certainly not impossible.

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